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Soberania deportiva; Caso David Ponce
Topic Started: Jun 2 2011, 08:56 PM (1,079 Views)
elmoustro
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David Ponce era un jugador estadounidense que militaba con los Leones de Ponce y que, según los documentos entregados a la FBPR, había sido adoptado por un puertorriqueño. En ese entonces, no había refuerzos estadounidenses en la liga, y los únicos extranjeros que participaban en el Baloncesto Superior eran jugadores de Centroamérica y el Caribe.

Distintos apoderados recibieron información de que Ponce “era un chivo, y empezó la investigación”, que concluyó que los documentos eran falsos.

“Obviamente, se actuó como correspondía: se suspendió al jugador, se confiscaron todos los partidos (del equipo) y los entonces apoderados de Ponce radicaron un caso en el Tribunal Federal”, contó Marchand, presidente de la FBPR en ese momento.

La alegación de los apoderados de los Leones era que se estaba privando a un ciudadano estadounidense de jugar en Puerto Rico, y que a Ponce le protegían las mismas leyes que a los boricuas. Luego de varios días de vistas judiciales, el juez Juan Pérez Giménez ordenó “que el jugador jugara esa noche y después”.

Marchand explicó que tenía sólo una opción tras la decisión: suspender el torneo, aunque ello constituyera un desacato a la orden judicial. “La decisión no era meramente mía, sino del deporte puertorriqueño. Se suspendió la temporada y el único recurso que nos quedaba era apelar la decisión en (el Tribunal de Apelaciones de) Boston”, apuntó.

“Circunstancialmente, Rafael Hernández Colón gana las elecciones (1984) inmediatamente después, y su primera ley fue la Ley de Soberanía Deportiva, que tenía como propósito fundamental quitarles jurisdicción a los tribunales sobre los asuntos deportivos, porque se le quitó al Departamento de Recreación y Deportes todo poder de regular el deporte; lo deja en manos del Copur y las federaciones.

Para los morones que piesan que detener un torneo es viable....


Al buen entendedor pocas palabras bastan. Estos asuntos se resuelven en las federaciones correspondientes. Las cortes no tienen jurisdicción en asuntos deportivos...
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El moron mas grande lo tienen uds. como apoderardo el bien llamado fernando pesetero, a el no le tocaba protestar y menos sin evidencia, lo que demuestra que es un abogadito totalmente inepto.
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Geronimo
Jun 2 2011, 09:36 PM
El moron mas grande lo tienen uds. como apoderardo el bien llamado fernando pesetero, a el no le tocaba protestar y menos sin evidencia, lo que demuestra que es un abogadito totalmente inepto.
Y por que Mayaguez impugno el cambio Copeland?? Acaso eso fue una caricia?
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Felicito a elmostro por su explicacion de lo que ocurrio en el caso de David Ponce. Grazias amigo
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El moustro es discipulo de Armandito Torres sin duda alguna.Esa ley de soberania deportiva aunque no creo que tenga el alcance absoluto de lo explicado por el moustro es la envidia de muchos paises
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la ley de soberania deportiva lo que si trata de proteger y lo ha logrado (con pocas excepcion)es la intervencion del gobierno en asuntos deportivos.Digo con pocas excepciones porque ,por ejemplo ,el contralor intervino con el Copur cuando se cuestiono unas transacciones del pasado presidente Hector Cardona
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Paul, lo que ocurre es que no aplica a todas las situaciones. No es un alcance absoluto, pero en este caso una decisión del director de torneo de esta indole no tendrá el espacio que Los indios quieren en un tribunal.

Edited by 0rion, Jun 4 2011, 11:41 AM.
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Orion estoy de acuerdo con lo que dices aunque recientemente el club de futbol Fraigcomar llevo exitosamente un caso a los tribunales y se paso por el forro los procesos de la federacion de futbol. Hay que explicar que en el caso del basket para empezar esa decision tiene que ser apelada dentro de la liga y creo que luego a la federacion. Quien dirige la liga y quien dirige la federacion?Si no prevaleces tienes que ir a TAAD(tribunal del comite olimpico)Quien es el secretario del Copur?Donde estan las oficinas de la liga y de la federacion?Si a las primeras tres preguntas contestaste Beltran y a la ultima la Casa Olimpica sacaste cien porciento.
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Jun 4 2011, 11:40 AM
Paul, lo que ocurre es que no aplica a todas las situaciones. No es un alcance absoluto, pero en este caso una decisión del director de torneo de esta indole no tendrá el espacio que Los indios quieren en un tribunal.

Creo que en este caso si aplicaría por que esto se trata sobre la interpretación que se le da a un reglamento del BSN, un asunto totalmente deportivo. Pienso que hasta podría llegar hasta el COPUR pero de ahí no pasa. Esta es la opinión de un simple fanático que se dio a la tarea de buscar información sobre este asunto.. He dicho pues y nada mas que pues....
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0rion
Jun 4 2011, 11:40 AM
Paul, lo que ocurre es que no aplica a todas las situaciones. No es un alcance absoluto, pero en este caso una decisión del director de torneo de esta indole no tendrá el espacio que Los indios quieren en un tribunal.

Creo que en este caso si aplicaría por que esto se trata sobre la interpretación que se le da a un reglamento del BSN, un asunto totalmente deportivo. Pienso que hasta podría llegar hasta el COPUR pero de ahí no pasa. Esta es la opinión de un simple fanático que se dio a la tarea de buscar información sobre este asunto.. He dicho pues y nada mas que pues....
Cuando digo que no aplica en este caso es desde el punto de vista que trajo Paul, en cuanto a los tribunales del Pais, buena explicacion de Paul y de el chain of command de apelaciones.
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por favor los tribunales se pueden meter el problemas de dopajes porque es un delito pero no en reglamentos de un liga ..
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Dejen tranquilo a Orion que estaba estudiando para abogado y a estas alturas creo que ya se debio haber licenciado.
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